There's a lot of really old software out there. Some of it has simply been abandoned; others have been replaced by new versions. But old software never really goes away, and we end up maintaining it.
This is especially tricky when old software depends on other old software, and we have to support the entire dependency tree.
There's always python2 and python 3. Some old software may never be fixed; some current software has consciously decided to stick to python 2. Distributions will be shipping python 2 for a long time yet.
Then there's PCRE and PCRE2. Some things have been updated; others haven't. Generally for this I'll keep updating, and eventually upstream might get around to migrating. But again I'll have to ship both for a while.
And then there's gtk2 and gtk3. (I find it ironic that the gimp itself is still using gtk2.) There's no end in sight of the need to ship both.
Some libraries have been deprecated entirely. the old libXp (the X printing library) is long gone. There were a couple of things built against it in Tribblix. I've just rebuilt chimera (a really old Xaw web browser if your memory doesn't go that far back) which was one consumer and now isn't; the other one was Motif (there's a convenient build flag --disable-printing to disable libXp support, which entertainingly breaks the build someplace else which I ended up having to fix).
Another example, libpng has gone through several different revisions. Each slightly incompatible, and you have to be sure to run with the same version you built against. At least you can ship all the different versions, as they have the version in the names. Mind you, linking against 2 different versions of libpng at the same time (for example, if a dependency pulls in a different version of libpng) is a bad thing, so I did have to rebuild a number of applications to avoid that. I ship the old libpng versions in a separate compat package, I think chimera was the only consumer, but I updated that to use a more current libpng.
A slightly different problem is the use of newer toolchains. Compilers are getting stricter over time, so old unmaintained software needs patches to even compile.
Don't even get me started on openssl.
Monday, May 08, 2023
Maintaining old software with no sign of retirement
Sunday, May 07, 2023
Upgrading MATE on Tribblix
I spent a little time yesterday updating MATE on Tribblix, to version 1.26.
This was supposed to be part of the "next" release, but we had to make an out of sequence release for an illumos security issue, so everything gets pushed back a bit.
Updating MATE is actually fairly easy, though. The components in MATE are largely decoupled, so can be updated independently of each other. (And there isn't really a MATE framework everything has to subscribe to, so the applications can be used outside MATE without any issues.)
There's a bit of tidying up and polish that helps. For example, I delete static archives and the harmful libtool archive files. Not only does this save space, it helps maintainability down the line.
Builds have a habit of picking up dependencies from the build system. Sometimes you can control this with judicious --enable-foo or --disable-foo flags, sometime you just have to make sure that the package you don't want pulled in isn't installed. The reverse is true - if you want a feature to be enabled, you have to make sure the dependencies are installed first and the feature will usually get enabled automatically.
That's not always true. For example, you have to explicitly tell it you have OSS for audio, it doesn't work this out on its own.
I took the opportunity to make everything 64-bit. Ultimately I want to get to 64-bit only. This involves a bit of working backwards - you have to make all consumers of a library 64-bit only first.
A couple of components are held downrev. The calculator now wants to pull in mpc and mpfr, which I don't package. (They're used by gcc, but I drop a copy of mpc and mpfr into the build for gcc to find rather than packaging them separately the way that most of the other illumos distributions do.) And pluma wants gtksourceview-4 which I don't have yet. This is related to the lack of tight coupling I mentioned earlier - there really isn't any problem having the different pieces that make up MATE at different revisions.)
You stumble across bugs along the way. For example, mate-control-center actually needs GLib 2.66 or later, which I don't have yet (there's another whole set of issues behind that), but it doesn't actually check for the right version. Fortunately the requirement is fairly localized and easy to patch out.
That done, on to another set of updates...